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Katy Perry got a parenting heads up from Gwyneth Paltrow this week who said young kids “ruin” relationships. The comment did not seem to ruin Perry’s spirit, but it could have easily ruined the mood.

The singer was a guest on Paltrow’s podcast, The Goop Podcast, where they discussed such topics as spirituality, loneliness, joy, and therapy. The two also talked about motherhood.

Perry and her fiancé Orlando Bloom have a 2-year-old daughter, Daisy Dove. Paltrow, a half-empty nester who has two teens with her ex-husband, musician Chris Martin, was not afraid to tell Perry about what she sees as the harsh reality of having young kids.

“Like I’ve looked back now on like the data set of parents with young kids,” she said. “It just ruins the relationship. Like, for a while, it’s really hard!”

Eek!

Perry responded by saying that getting through the tough years, a time in which the dynamic of the relationship changes, can be easier if each partner is on the same page.

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